housemate and I are sick of smartphone AI and spyware!! looking for cheap, refurbished cellphones from the 00s
- the problem: all models we have found run on 2G, which is rapidly being phased out by all US carriers
- desired features: basic call and text functionality, durability, physical buttons, fits in pocket


follow up Q; can Graphene run Signal? I know it’s not the most secure app out there, but it’s what most of my collaborators use
There’s an alternative client for Signal called Molly, that has additional privacy options, is fully open source, and doesn’t use Google for notifications.
Yes, you can get Signal using the Aurora Store, which lets you download and install apps from the Google Play Store without an account.
Alternatively, you can add the Guardian Project repo to F-droid, which AFAIK also has Signal available.
awesome!!! thank you again
To piggy back onto what @ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net has said, it may be worthwhile for you (depending on your threat model) to also add the Molly repo to your f-droid client of choice and install Molly as your Signal client. It’s wholly compatible with signal with some additional security features. However, the more repo sources you add the more risk you’re at for a bad actor taking control of one of those repos. It’s not a question I can answer for you directly, it’s just what I’m doing.
(and I realize now after writing all this that @acockworkorange@mander.xyz already said this)