You simply haven’t even read my response or are completely unable to explore that far outside your comfort zone. I’ve even given you a scientific response, and you don’t even react to it. And guess who’s now starting to sound like a pseudoscience person?

You may think that astrology is just harmless fun, but at a societal level, the acceptable of pseudoscience like this as meritorious is dangerous.

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This is the kind of thinking that leads to being anti-vax,

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why children are dying of fucking measles again.

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This is the kind of thinking that allows people to completely ignore the science surrounding it

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, and stake their entire personality on the belief that abortion is literal murder.

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You’re eroding away your own ability to think critically.

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Impressive how you swung that to abortion too! You seem to have failed to counter my excellent rebuttal, hence your reflex to deflect to other baiting issues.

There’s no need to adapt a tone with me Person Prole. It’s very clear you’re a skeptic, so it’s quite unnecessary to continue to highlight that fact.

I cannot provide evidence of the usefulness of astrology in my own life because that’s like asking a random stranger to give them your social security number. And when the in the end of the month things unfold that would remotely point towards these predictions, you would have a mountain of ready made arguments to refute it and claim luck or something else. We are not talking about science, we are talking about belief. And you won’t change yours just like I’m not changing mine. I have had your belief and I found this to be an improvement on virtually all aspects of life.

To your point, and the pointlessness of my responding to this: You see the gas giants as the things you know they are because of the angle you’re viewing them at as if their physical attributes or physical position or physical motion has anything to do with their value. I will paraphrase your question.

Please explain to me how 2 arrows of different lengths of metal or plastic only a few centimetres away from the centre of a clock can have any meaningful influence on the time of the day or when the sun will set, the seas will rise or the night will fall.

I will point out that in this very materialistic and ego centric view of (y)ours there are many things we can use or have a form of predictability without us completely understanding what it is.

In this mad world of instant news, AI, crypto and wireless payments and microchips we still have no idea what electricity really is. But that doesn’t mean we can’t use it.

If you keep going, you may discover that your fear of astrology has nothing to do with astrology at all, but with being comfortable not really understanding the vast depths of life and the universe, because it is fucking scary once you remove all the “we think we know for sure’s”. Just look back in human history how often we changed our mind on subjects we know consider set in stone.

But since you read this far, I can even answer your question in your world and viewpoint too: what in the world makes you think that a ball of gas CANNOT provide that influence? You and me are here and alive and talking because of one of them being ON FIRE a solid 93 million miles away from here and has been for millions of years too. That one is providing LIFE ON EARTH. What makes you think that just because others are a bit smaller or a bit further or not on fire wouldn’t have the tiniest bit of influence especially when they align with others? How do you know for sure they don’t? Just because you haven’t explored the idea doesn’t mean there’s nothing there. We just studied the Sun a lot more, but we are far from having all the answers.

And with that, Person Prole, I wish you many more joyous lapses around El Sol.

It’s fairly futile to continue this as you clearly already made up your mind (hopefully after a thorough open minded exploration in the topic as science would like you to)

However

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

You touch upon a key issue here: the extraordinary evidence is often extraordinarily personal, deeply vulnerable so not the stuff you can easily share. It works for me, and it helps me to see life clearer.

I like your coin toss analogy and I do understand there is plenty of astrology and horoscopes that have that vibe. And because of that I see that any prediction could be much more successful on Lemmy or Reddit by just omitting the astrology from the prediction. Or at least not lead with a screenshot of it.

The core of my prediction remains. A neo nazi, happening to sit on mountains of cash, freshly purchased the US presidency and with an affinity for the previous title holder of world’s most terrible human being.

The pieces are moving in place with the 19/4 protests which will probably be the biggest the USA has seen in a long while. They may turn violent. They may invoke a Marshall Law declaration.

The astrology is not the prediction. It simply shows that around that time is a cosmic fertile ground for these types of forces to clash and for a tension that has been building to be released one way or another. The astrology is not any astrology either. It’s from a Swiss company who has one of the highest reputations among astrologers, precisely because they are not predicting there will be Marshall Law, but outline the kind of energies which will exist around that time to enable an unexpected evolution such as the one outlined in the actual prediction.

Anyway, I’m sure none of that convinced you, but I’ll watching next weekend. This ride is not going to calm down, and hasn’t even gotten wild yet. Thanks for the civil discourse, despite our differences.

Don’t worry it gets downvoted there too.

Hitler was an occultist and into numerology, so is Musk. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand.

This is the typical peasants fighting among themselves while they are steamrolling their Project 2025 in broad daylight.

I agree. But I’m just wondering if they went to the butcher to get a bit of meat if they were a acknowledging that they were living under a dictatorial regime right now?

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It doesn’t matter what you believe you don’t have to try and convince other people that you were right and other people

I was merely using astrology to corroborate something that was already pointed out with an abundance of other really good arguments.

To me you’re just a Muppet who will dismiss the discovery of a cure for cancer because the researcher said he found a cure of cancer on his birthday. Babies and bathwater and stuff

If you think that the wealthy and the powerful of the world don’t use astrology to time their events, that’s when you lose all credibility with me.

Thank you for taking in this discussion with me

Well, argued I love your scientific methods I need no further proof, thank you

Lol, as I just pointed out in my other comment, you’re someone who sees a picture and jumps to conclusions. Don’t brigade and attempt to rob others who want to read the entire linked article.

If you want to go that fast and only look at the pretty picture, maybe go read comic books. It’s not just astrology bullshit. Horoscopes are bullshit, astrology when done well can be scarily accurate. Plus I’m not using astrology as the trend setter, but the trend confirmer.

The key thing you refused to read is that Musk is in charge, he’s a proven neo Nazi, and particularly adores Hitler. The rest you’ll have to read yourself. Or you can pander here for some more cheap upvotes.

PS: please lemmy, can we raise the level of discourse please and not upvote these populist comments? Stay on reddit if you just want to be a walking regex that sees “astrology” + “bullshit” = upvote.

Wait… so I’m still a fascist? Lol.

90 days since the inauguration and a few other good reasons.

All good brother

Pointing out imminent collapse is white replacement stuff how exactly? What even could white replacement mean in this context?

Yep. There this complacent coddling that seems to have happened where people sit on fences for eons

“Let’s wait and see if we really do break 1.5ºC of warming. It’s too early to tell now” “Let’s wait and see if Trump does full Hitler. He’s got a unique style, but so many people voting for him can’t be wrong” “Let’s wait and see if we need to divest our USA interests and our military reliance. They have a difficult moment now, but surely will bounce back. They always have”

In a way, during peacetime, there is a sense of security in that fence sitting, but now, during wartime, it is the thing that costs hundreds of thousands of lives.

We’re in for a really tough ride.

Also, for those interested, there are safe spaces for people who have come off the fence. !collapse@lemmy.ml and !collapse@sopuli.xyz and !collapse@slrpnk.net being the most prominent on Lemmy atm.

I thought when talking about the USA the arms and violence is implied. Though, historically it is curious how the French with a notorious lack of weapons wreak more havoc than them 2nd amendment folks.

This is the exact same tactic this regime will use on the 20th of April to declare martial law. I’m really curious how long it took the Germans in the late 1930’s to call it what it was.

This is a coup d’etat. Lots of people will die. The regime - even if DJT dies or gets shot - will go on. There won’t be any more fair elections. I hope these protests go from 5 million to 10 million on Saturday, because only a mass movement can stop this.

Please stop spouting this propaganda. We have less than 2 decades of western white civilisation left. Other continents far less. It’s not helpful and it propagates this hopium and drives people to complacency.

E: your downvotes are as futile as the hopium propaganda. Truth hurts, but sets you free.