Your analysis is certainly pretty easy on you personally, though, isn’t it? Someone else is to blame, move on. Whenever you take part in modern society - eating meat, driving and flying, buying junk and throwing it away, everything basically - it’s someone else’s fault, move on. Personally I choose to accept that I also have some responsibility in the matter.

That is such BS. I’m already living in a neighborhood with higher density with easy access to public transportation by both bus and subway, buying my food as locally as possible by going to local markets and mongers, reducing my meat consumption, trying to repair everything I own as much as possible instead of disposing and buying new an trying to keep my things to last as long as I can, reducing my energy consumption, trying to avoid plastics, composting, recycling, you name it. But I’m still limited by what’s available out there that is being sold by big ass companies who only care about profit.

I’m sick and tired of putting the onus of making all the sacrifices on us, the working class, while rich assholes and companies are contributing more to pollution and global warming than anyone else. I really don’t care bout you accusing me of not doing enough. You’re basically defending companies and billionaires.

As for the virtuous-native argument, I don’t buy that either. For one reason: population growth. A human civilization can never be sustainable unless its population is stable. It’s just basic ecology. Well, AFAIK, there is no premodern human society that has mastered this. Their populations are all increasing, just from a lower baseline, since they haven’t adopted farming yet. Their impacts may be lower because the absolute numbers are lower, but the trajectory is exactly the same. I know that’s not a popular opinion among the race-obsessed modern American left, but I’m a universalist so that’s how I see it. The color of people’s skin does not exempt them from responsibility. We’re all humans, we’re all implicated in this endeavor.

Population growth has never been so rapid. We were never supposed to grow this fast. Again this is a modern phenomena. This has never happened until the 1700s, which is around the time that colonization was in full swing. Then modern medicine came along. Before that, population growth was pretty stable. So your argument doesn’t stand.

And why do you think that modern capitalist government don’t want to stop population growth and keep complaining about low birthrates? They want more people so they can have more workers, and more workers means lower wages, lower wages means more profits! They’re creating this environment where life become a rat race.

I dunno man. If you look at aboriginal peoples around the globe who still live by their old native ways like in the Amazons, in isolated parts of Asia, Africa and Australia, and how American natives used to live, I’d say they were doing pretty well before western colonization happened. Greedy fuckers would get put in their place pretty quick or cast out of their collectivity for having antisocial behavior that is typically associated with greedy people.

The greed that we know today, historically speaking, is fairly recent. With its money and loans and debt and accumulation of wealth.

So no. I disagree with your argument that it is a problem with humanity. It’s a problem with a system that’s been built over time by a small group of people who were craving power.

Maybe get rid of those billionaires and capitalists first before trying to survive on scraps. Nearly half of the food in grocery stores is thrown out while it’s still good. Meanwhile people are now starving and there’s even a return of scurvy due to malnutrition from food inflation and food insecurity.

Same with clothing. Companies like H&M shredding good clothes before throwing them out instead of giving it away or even selling them to places like Winners.

It’s light were living in a global version of the Irish famine where everybody was starving and dirt poor, but they were making a fuck ton of food for the British.

And finally, what about how companies are doing programmed obsoletion of their products like electronics and appliances and design their products in a way that produces more e-waste? Or how everything is wrapped in plastic all the time? How is that the consumer’s fault?

Change needs to start at the top. Cut the greedy fuckers out of the loop and you’ll see how much waste we can reduce.

I don’t see the clock tower…

/s 😁

Even cars are getting enshitified.

That post is old lol. But yes, they’re nettles or urtica.

It’s always about money isn’t it?

LoL yeah right. Me and you? The media is still trying to scare the working class into making sacrifices while the ultra rich continue their opulent lifestyles and companies continue to be the cause of the vast majority of the pollution.

Are you kidding? The parents can’t figure out why? Really? Neither can mine by the way.

They don’t understand that the social contract is broken. Working for a living wage is a concept that’s all but disappeared. A job can’t pay the rent and food. And employers aren’t giving any significant pay raises or promotions in order to cut costs. They’ve been through TWO major economic events - 2008 and COVID - and the massive layoffs that go with them.

I think I heard Jimmy Carr say something about this along the lines of the reason that millennials and the younger generations play so much video games is that it’s the only way to experience the fantasy of actually doing something and progressing in any significant way that we don’t experience any more in real life. And forget about owning a home and building a family with kids and all that. It’s become incredibly difficult and something reserved for the wealthy elite.

Boomer parents who were able to get a well paying job with a high school degree and got good raises their whole life will never understand this.