i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

If all of the land currently used by animal agriculture were converted (back) into forest, that would solve the CO2 emissions problem within decades.

but there is no reason to believe that will happen

what’s relevant is that we eat the same crops we feed animals. they eat the waste from those crops, which is a conservation of resources.

You can grow plants to eat, or you can grow plants for a cow to eat and then eat it.

false dichotomy. cows eat corn cobs and corn stalks and soy cake. people eat corn and corn syrup and corn starch and soybean oil. the food system is more complex than you’re saying.

disengage

as much as I can. it’s not my profession. I think I don’t have enough evidence that changing ones diet has any impact on the environment once easy or the other.

the people who voted for trump are the ones who got trump elected.

this is handwaiving, not evidence.

your comments don’t actually establish that well. they rely on poor data gathering processes.

this study relies on poore-nemecek 2018 for its data, which improperly combines LCA studies with disparate methodologies. it’s not good science.

this study relies on poore-nemecek 2018 for its data, which improperly combines LCA studies with disparate methodologies. it’s not good science.

all agriculture has an impact on the environment.

what makes you think that?

if you buy less meat, the meat industry actually becomes smaller over time.

that has never happened.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL