Charity with fewer mechanisms of control from the donator

It’s also ridiculous how many products are just trucking water around from one place to another with a little big of active solution mixed in. We need more ‘just add water’ products available.

Definitely a valid critique of Mondragon in the modern era, its commitment to the 10% ratio has atrophied somewhat. It’s still something that ebbs and flows, for example there is a current push to transfer 35,000 non-member workers in their retail coop into full members (from a total of 50,000 workers). From numbers I’ve seen, 85% of employees are still members, which is pretty good.

That’s awesome! What sorts of lessons have you learned in navigating that transition?

That’s kind of what I was getting at, I think both have their strengths and weaknesses, and I think the discourse should reflect that.

Poplars and willows are fairly fast growing. Plus there are perennial grass feedstocks

Municipal scale infrastructure to capture waste, treat it, and extract nutrients to be redistributed or sold as fertilizer. This is usually an activity undertaken by and fit into existing municipal waste infrastructure.

You’d probably site them on higher ground outside of the flood plane. Add in flood walls, etc. if storm surge is a concern

Wait until you get into food preservation!

I’m from a big wind state. It’s absurd to me how unpopular wind farms have been among rural folk. It brings jobs and revenue and has a relatively small land foot print. I just don’t get why people don’t like them, except for culture war stuff :/