Punks hated hippies. To punks, hippies were privileged kids that could always go home and get bailed out. Punks were treated like scum and fought for what they believed in.
I think you are right about steampunk, but cyberpunk does have an element of an anti-authoritarian counter culture (hackers going up against tech oligarchs). And solar punk evolved from there and is more explicitly political, although more utopian and I agree there is a bit of distance in the meaning.
Not sure I understand the meaning of your question. Maybe the Wikipedia can help? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture
I understand that the word punk has to do with some kind of revolution or non conformism. The hippies could be categorised as punks.
It does look a la mode in the Western World, but do you really need to label yourself something in order to carve out a self-identity ?
Sometimes this is better than jabber !!
Punks hated hippies. To punks, hippies were privileged kids that could always go home and get bailed out. Punks were treated like scum and fought for what they believed in.
Not uniformly though, my partner’s mother was a hippie who got into the commune life after she aged out of foster care.
That’s new, because where l am, l understand neither punks nor hippies. I simply know that for hippies, sex and drugs were the order of life.
Punk life was more self destructive and art aligned. Politics, drugs, sex, art, poverty, and alienation made punk, at least in the early stages.
If l say, “Poverty is the byproduct of capitalism,” does that make any sense to you ??
These are features of the Western World, which l would never understand.
Uh, categorizing self-absorbed hippies as punks is about as wrong as it gets 😅
It’s not about the lable, its just a shortcut to explain a common cause and idea how to interact with one another.
In solarpunk just like steampunk and cyberpunk I don’t think the punk park hold much meaning.
It is similar to porn in unixporn or foodporn. It just signals that whatever you are talking about is alao an aesthetic.
Categorizing the hippies as a kind of punk ruined my day tho.
I think you are right about steampunk, but cyberpunk does have an element of an anti-authoritarian counter culture (hackers going up against tech oligarchs). And solar punk evolved from there and is more explicitly political, although more utopian and I agree there is a bit of distance in the meaning.
Yeah I was thinking about that, but it is not consistent across all punks so it can’t be the meaning of punk right?
That’s… Not how words work. Like, a silverfish is not a type of fish, bench dog is not a type of dog, etc.
Just like with the original punk there are some posers 🤷