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  • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    7 hours ago

    The way things are going, knowing nothing about anything but being confident in my assumptive powers, i promise you this isn’t going to be used for “energy,” it’ll be used as fertilizer feedstock as the global oil economy shits itself to death

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      6 hours ago

      You could be a bit less confident in your assumptive powers and a bit more confident in your ability to read about the industry, which everyone is capable of doing. Hydrogen isn’t just free fertilizer (a bad thing?), it’s used in glass, ceramics, steel, and high-end semiconductor etching (purifies the chamber where they zap rocks real good and smart 😌), and it’s an important chemical feedstock, hence why China is building an industry around partially-recyclable (competitive with hydrogen fuel cell compression energy cost) ammonia that is useful both as energy storage and feedstock. This may horrify you, but it can even be used to cut a fraction of the emissions from gasoline

      Wrong to assume Vietnam lacks the industry to transform this energy in the first place, or that fertilizer is going to be misused in a desperate recovery from the terrorist usage of Rainbow Herbicides/Pesticides. This is beyond degrowth, “touch grass” as they say.

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          6 hours ago

          Alright, let me come back when I have the patience to explain the entirety of Vietnam’s petrochemical industry to you. Seems like you imagine Senegal. Christ, lay off the weed.

          P.S. when it comes to Warcraft references, my name is cooler.

          • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            where’s Vietnam going to get its fertilizer as the strait of hormuz remains closed and global shortages cause literal worldwide famine

            Are they going to use this hydrogen to produce energy and then… use that energy… to produce the hydrogen needed in order to literally prevent the starvation of the majority of the country?

            Or do you think their domestic natural gas is gonna do the job, when it’s already insufficient to meet domestic needs under conditions where it isn’t all desperately needed to avoid famine

            Seems like you imagine Senegal.

            I imagine a country in a world where over half the global population needs nitrogen fixed by the haber bosch process to literally have enough food to survive having problems when there is a sudden global shortage of inputs required for said process

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              where’s Vietnam going to get its fertilizer

              It’s nice to have a good laugh in these dark times. Vietnam isn’t stressed by this crisis in the way you imagine, especially not on fertilizer. Plants are designed to keep running at a high volume, there is plenty of surplus for the rapid industrial growth and the needs of regional partners, although I’m guessing by now you think a socialist competitor in the fertilizer trade is a bad thing. I’m really giving you too much effort in these replies already, I assumed someone bothering to reply might actually be interested in the subject. Let me give you some advice for the meantime: do basic research before talking about global trade.

              If you’re looking for dependency links in SEA catastrophically damaged by Qatar’s flailing, take a look at RoK and Singapore. Not exactly interested in industrial and agricultural self-sufficiency!

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                5 hours ago

                Vietnam isn’t stressed by this crisis in the way you imagine, especially not on fertilizer.

                Lol, lmao, Vietnam, famously not part of the world economy

                You blaming Qatar for this is the most wtf shit anyone has ever said

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                  You are very arrogant for someone who knows they haven’t spent even an hour reading about Vietnam. The entire world doesn’t revolve around Qatar. Yours does. Openness to the world economy isn’t a big switch to flip on and off. This is seriously embarrassing stuff.

                  You blaming Qatar for this is the most wtf shit anyone has ever said

                  What are you even saying? Are you drinking heavily?